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packed permission bits in file systems?
by David Nicol 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Filesystem_permissions#Packed_permission_… Clearly, ext3 has moved beyond "packed permission bits" if that ever was a production concept. [david@hexaflexagon scrabble]$ touch BLOP [david@hexaflexagon scrabble]$ ls -l BLOP -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Jun 3 04:11 BLOP [david@hexaflexagon scrabble]$ chmod o+x BLOP [david@hexaflexagon scrabble]$ ls -l BLOP -rw-r--r-x 1 david david 0 Jun 3 04:11 BLOP [david@hexaflexagon scrabble]$ Under packed permissions, granting for OTHERS would grant for USER and GROUP too. Here's my question: When did packed permissions stop being used, if they ever were? Does anyone else remember "chmod o+w foo" silently implying "chmod ugo+w foo" and if so how log ago was that? -- "I'm not giving in an inch to fear" --David Crosby

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Re: Synology & Fsck
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

Are there any temp files or old logs that you can delete to free up space for fresh firmware? -------------------------- Brian Kelsay Sr. IT Support Specialist Anadarko Industries Inc. working for Technical Support Division (TSD) USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC Office: 816-823-4859 Mobile: 816-769-5615 Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov Message Sent using BlackBerry Device ________________________________ From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org <kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org> To: KCLUG <kclug(a)kclug.org> Sent: Wed Jun 02 12:08:30 2010 Subject: Re: Synology & Fsck On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Sean Crago <cragos(a)gmail.com<mailto:cragos@gmail.com>> wrote: If the list is coming back to life, then I've got a weird but hopefully simple problem for you: I've got a Synology DiskStation DS209 NAS that's giving me erroneous free space readings, or erroneous du output. On installation, it dedicated 2.4GB to its root partition /dev/md0 and according to du -cx / is using less than 587192K of that space. Unfortunately, however, df says it's full. bash-3.2# df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 2451064 2425764 0 100% / /dev/root 2451064 2425764 0 100% / bash-3.2# mount /dev/md0 on / type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) As a result, any number of apps from the stock firmware are prevented from running and those that do hobble along spam the logs to the point of uselessness w/complaints. The catch? I can't find a safe way to fsck it. Conventional shutdown commands to force a fsck aren't an option/are just plain missing on the box. Using tune2fs to set the check interval ridiculously low to force a check upon reboot similarly didn't work. Unfortunately, the ARM-based architecture also doesn't support booting to a removable USB device, knocking out the only other safe way I can think of to fsck it. Pop new firmware on to start from scratch? I'd love to at this point, but the firmware installation process requires 1024 megs of free disk space. Thoughts? Any ideas on how to safely get it cleaned up and accurately reporting its free space while the root filesystem is live and booted? -Sean Oh, and I really doubt this changes the solution, but for full disclosure's sake: Last change I made to the system was to install the ipkg for mlocate, which stores its small 500k db on a different partition. Also, power situation is abysmal here, and I'm not convinced it's shutting down properly when it detects that it's on UPS power.

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Re: Where is everyone?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 31 May '10

31 May '10

What would civicrm do for me? -------------------------- Brian Kelsay Sr. IT Support Specialist Anadarko Industries Inc. working for Technical Support Division (TSD) USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC Office: 816-823-4859 Mobile: 816-769-5615 Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov Message Sent using BlackBerry Device ----- Original Message ----- From: jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com <jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com> To: Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org <kclug(a)kclug.org> Sent: Mon May 31 09:42:50 2010 Subject: Re: Where is everyone? also gnucash is not bad, civicrm is also floss... but civicrm is not good if you dont feed it. gnucash is very nice. mike On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> wrote: > Nope, put I'm interested in using FOSS for this, keeping it simple and portable. I need to keep it small enough to backup to pen drive and easy (straightforward) enough that anyone else could pick it up and do it if I croak. > > After I got the main spreadsheet done, I tried to do a database, but it is way overkill and too much work for same result. I was dragging sheets to Base to create tables and it was a royal PITA. > > I have a workbook with 50 or so tabs (sheets). One for each boy and then a totals tab where I gather a running balance of all boys accounts for monthly reporting. > > Pretty good for a guy that never had any accounting training. I took over and everything was on ledger paper accounting sheets and you had to manually calculate everything. PITA. > -------------------------- > Brian Kelsay > Sr. IT Support Specialist > Anadarko Industries Inc. working for > Technical Support Division (TSD) > USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC > Office: 816-823-4859 > Mobile: 816-769-5615 > Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov > Message Sent using BlackBerry Device > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com <jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com> > To: Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO > Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Sent: Mon May 31 09:17:54 2010 > Subject: Re: Where is everyone? > > have you looked at civicrm , it might be useful for that as well. > mike > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO > <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> wrote: >> While I haven't done much with Linux lately I have been doing a bunch with OO.o (openoffice.org). >> >> In Jan, I took over the Treasurer position in our boy scout troop. I have created several spreadsheets in OO.o to track money and payments for various things. Then I cleaned up the main accounting spreadsheet, added notes and examples and posted it as a template for others to use on OO.o. >> >> So, open source accounting for non-profit BSA troop. >> >> Brian Kelsay >> -------------------------- >> Brian Kelsay >> Sr. IT Support Specialist >> Anadarko Industries Inc. working for >> Technical Support Division (TSD) >> USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC >> Office: 816-823-4859 >> Mobile: 816-769-5615 >> Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov >> Message Sent using BlackBerry Device >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org <kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org> >> To: Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> >> Cc: KCLUG (E-mail) <kclug(a)kclug.org> >> Sent: Mon May 31 08:56:26 2010 >> Subject: Re: Where is everyone? >> >> hi, >> I am working on a new project to port josm from openstreetmap (the >> java desktop map editor ) to gwt, the google webtoolkit, >> all help appreciated >> http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/05/next-version-of-gwtosm.html >> >> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> wrote: >>> Did the Year of the Linux Desktop pass by? Linux finally achieve World >>> Domination? Is Microsoft now selling Linux? The last bug in the lkml get >>> closed? >>> >>> This mailing list used to be hopping every day. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> KCLUG mailing list >>> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >>> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> KCLUG mailing list >> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> _______________________________________________ >> KCLUG mailing list >> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Re: Where is everyone?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 31 May '10

31 May '10

Nope, put I'm interested in using FOSS for this, keeping it simple and portable. I need to keep it small enough to backup to pen drive and easy (straightforward) enough that anyone else could pick it up and do it if I croak. After I got the main spreadsheet done, I tried to do a database, but it is way overkill and too much work for same result. I was dragging sheets to Base to create tables and it was a royal PITA. I have a workbook with 50 or so tabs (sheets). One for each boy and then a totals tab where I gather a running balance of all boys accounts for monthly reporting. Pretty good for a guy that never had any accounting training. I took over and everything was on ledger paper accounting sheets and you had to manually calculate everything. PITA. -------------------------- Brian Kelsay Sr. IT Support Specialist Anadarko Industries Inc. working for Technical Support Division (TSD) USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC Office: 816-823-4859 Mobile: 816-769-5615 Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov Message Sent using BlackBerry Device ----- Original Message ----- From: jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com <jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com> To: Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org <kclug(a)kclug.org> Sent: Mon May 31 09:17:54 2010 Subject: Re: Where is everyone? have you looked at civicrm , it might be useful for that as well. mike On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> wrote: > While I haven't done much with Linux lately I have been doing a bunch with OO.o (openoffice.org). > > In Jan, I took over the Treasurer position in our boy scout troop. I have created several spreadsheets in OO.o to track money and payments for various things. Then I cleaned up the main accounting spreadsheet, added notes and examples and posted it as a template for others to use on OO.o. > > So, open source accounting for non-profit BSA troop. > > Brian Kelsay > -------------------------- > Brian Kelsay > Sr. IT Support Specialist > Anadarko Industries Inc. working for > Technical Support Division (TSD) > USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC > Office: 816-823-4859 > Mobile: 816-769-5615 > Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov > Message Sent using BlackBerry Device > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org <kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org> > To: Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> > Cc: KCLUG (E-mail) <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Sent: Mon May 31 08:56:26 2010 > Subject: Re: Where is everyone? > > hi, > I am working on a new project to port josm from openstreetmap (the > java desktop map editor ) to gwt, the google webtoolkit, > all help appreciated > http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/05/next-version-of-gwtosm.html > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> wrote: >> Did the Year of the Linux Desktop pass by? Linux finally achieve World >> Domination? Is Microsoft now selling Linux? The last bug in the lkml get >> closed? >> >> This mailing list used to be hopping every day. >> _______________________________________________ >> KCLUG mailing list >> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Re: Where is everyone?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 31 May '10

31 May '10

While I haven't done much with Linux lately I have been doing a bunch with OO.o (openoffice.org). In Jan, I took over the Treasurer position in our boy scout troop. I have created several spreadsheets in OO.o to track money and payments for various things. Then I cleaned up the main accounting spreadsheet, added notes and examples and posted it as a template for others to use on OO.o. So, open source accounting for non-profit BSA troop. Brian Kelsay -------------------------- Brian Kelsay Sr. IT Support Specialist Anadarko Industries Inc. working for Technical Support Division (TSD) USDA/OCIO/ITS/TSD/LO-KC Office: 816-823-4859 Mobile: 816-769-5615 Email: brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov Message Sent using BlackBerry Device ----- Original Message ----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org <kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org> To: Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> Cc: KCLUG (E-mail) <kclug(a)kclug.org> Sent: Mon May 31 08:56:26 2010 Subject: Re: Where is everyone? hi, I am working on a new project to port josm from openstreetmap (the java desktop map editor ) to gwt, the google webtoolkit, all help appreciated http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/05/next-version-of-gwtosm.html On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Duane Attaway <dattaway(a)dattaway.net> wrote: > Did the Year of the Linux Desktop pass by? Linux finally achieve World > Domination? Is Microsoft now selling Linux? The last bug in the lkml get > closed? > > This mailing list used to be hopping every day. > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Where is everyone?
by Duane Attaway 31 May '10

31 May '10

Did the Year of the Linux Desktop pass by? Linux finally achieve World Domination? Is Microsoft now selling Linux? The last bug in the lkml get closed? This mailing list used to be hopping every day.

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Ubuntu 10.04 release party
by Dale Beams 21 May '10

21 May '10

Come mix it up with fellow ubuntu-ites at the Ubuntu 10.04 release party. Salina Public Library, May 29th - 10:00 - 4:00. Salina Public Library 301 West Elm Street Salina, KS 67401-2358 Prescott Room Attached is a pdf poster you can print and display around town. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:…

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RE: Kansas LoCo Ubuntu Release Party
by Dale Beams 20 May '10

20 May '10

Kansas LoCo is hosting a Ubuntu 10.04 release party and linux mini-tech conference on May 29, 2010 between the hours of 10:00 - 4:00 at Salina Public Library, 301 West Elm Street, Salina, Kansas. Gigabyte 8 port switch will be available for use. Check Kansas LoCo forums for more info. Will send complete info and a poster that can be printed and hung around town. Advertising in your area will be up to ACLUG. NCKLUG is the sponsor of the event. Speakers still welcome, slots are filled but can be moved around as some slots are filled with LUG speakers. http://kansas.ubuntuforums.org Dale Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID2…

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Kansas City Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Release Party and GPG Key signing
by Brandon Holtsclaw 28 Apr '10

28 Apr '10

For those of you that dont read my blog , some might be interested ... http://www.brandonholtsclaw.com/2010.04.23/Kansas-City-Lucid-Release-and-GP… -- Brandon Holtsclaw me(a)brandonholtsclaw.com http://www.brandonholtsclaw.com

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test
by David Nicol 28 Apr '10

28 Apr '10

is this mailing list back up? -- I like to think that when I ramble on, I'm speaking for others who share my opinions or point of view but who aren't as expressive.

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