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Re: KCLUG Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
by Richard Allen 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

It is *mostly* possible, but a ton of work. You have to build apple's gcc, which is no fun on another OS. Also as stated you must copy those frameworks. On Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM, <kclug-request(a)kclug.org> wrote: > Send KCLUG mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KCLUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: iOS application on Linux (Mike Dupont) > 2. RE: iOS application on Linux > (Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO) > 3. Re: iOS application on Linux (John McPherson) > 4. Re: iOS application on Linux (Chris Bier) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:05:21 +0100 > From: Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com> > To: "Christofer C. Bell" <christofer.c.bell(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > Message-ID: > <CAF0qKV1pRKWKSpTgOVdogw42zueSWEXhYi1QQCUhrWO-xYyeiQ(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > here is what I found so far: > http://code.google.com/p/cocotron/ > The Cocotron is a cross-platform implementation of Objective-C API's > similar to Foundation and AppKit > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Christofer C. Bell > <christofer.c.bell(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux? > > > > Not really. ?If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the > > UI that iOS provides. ?Linux doesn't provide the same user interface. > > That said, Objective-C is available for both. > > > > Debian (and derivatives): gobjc > > Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc > > > >> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux? > > > > Never heard of it. > > > >> Best iPhone/iPad emulator? > > > > The one that comes with the iOS SDK. > > http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action > > > >> Cheap Apple development box? > > > > A Mac mini. > > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > >> Thanks, > >> Jack > > > > -- > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > KCLUG mailing list > > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > > > > > -- > James Michael DuPont > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:46:13 +0000 > From: "Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO" > <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> > To: Kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Subject: RE: iOS application on Linux > Message-ID: > < > 9D64F4E6F75DDF4687D34BFC22071A952004F7(a)001FSN2MPN1-036.001f.mgd2.msft.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > According to my local Mac Guru, he agrees that the Mac Mini is the > cheapest way to get into iOS development (~$600). The iOS SDK is free. You > would also need to pay for a dev acct to be able to submit completed > programs to the App Store ($100). This is needed even if you build an app > and release it for free. > > Brian Kelsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Christofer C. Bell > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack wrote: > > > > Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux? > > Not really. If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the > UI that iOS provides. Linux doesn't provide the same user interface. > That said, Objective-C is available for both. > > Debian (and derivatives): gobjc > Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc > > > Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux? > > Never heard of it. > > > Best iPhone/iPad emulator? > > The one that comes with the iOS SDK. > http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action > > > Cheap Apple development box? > > A Mac mini. > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > Thanks, > > Jack > > -- > Chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:26:55 -0600 > From: John McPherson <xeniphon(a)gmail.com> > To: Kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > Message-ID: <8C8155D1-E42C-42A9-B131-FC82A96B583A(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > If you have a PC and patience, you could try to put MacOS on a PC. Of > course if you are one of those folks who actually reads the EULA then this > isn't likely an option; www.osx86project.org > > > On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO > wrote: > > > According to my local Mac Guru, he agrees that the Mac Mini is the > cheapest way to get into iOS development (~$600). The iOS SDK is free. You > would also need to pay for a dev acct to be able to submit completed > programs to the App Store ($100). This is needed even if you build an app > and release it for free. > > > > Brian Kelsay > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: On Behalf Of Christofer C. Bell > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM > > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack wrote: > > > > > >> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux? > > > > Not really. If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the > > UI that iOS provides. Linux doesn't provide the same user interface. > > That said, Objective-C is available for both. > > > > Debian (and derivatives): gobjc > > Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc > > > >> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux? > > > > Never heard of it. > > > >> Best iPhone/iPad emulator? > > > > The one that comes with the iOS SDK. > > http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action > > > >> Cheap Apple development box? > > > > A Mac mini. > > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > >> Thanks, > >> Jack > > > > -- > > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KCLUG mailing list > > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:22:31 -0600 > From: Chris Bier <chris.bier(a)cymor.com> > To: KCLUG <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Cc: Kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > Message-ID: <20111116162231.GO6623(a)bwv846.cymor.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > You might want to take a look at this mobile platform framework list: > http://www.markus-falk.com/mobile-frameworks-comparison-chart/ > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:02:45PM -0800, Jack wrote: > > Thanks Chris, > > > > What I really meant was what is the best development environment on > Linux. I'm aware the best environment is on Macs with the official SDK. > > Deploying, would really just have been a bonus. > > I have no desire to write iPhone Apps, but my grandson might. He's not > in a financial situation to go and buy a Mac or even get a > > > > developer license from Apple. I myself am disinclined to obtain said > tools for him. A truly cheap Mac, I might be willing to buy. > > Cheap as in older, used, discarded, PC hardware, cheap. > > > > I've known about the Objective-C compiler in GNU for years. I've seen > the iphone-dev site, > > which seems abandoned, and thus was not sure even what level of > development is possible in Linux. > > > > Was not sure about the VM capabilities either. I have no intentions of > clicking through any Apple EULA/NDA. Especially considering the DOJs latest > stand on things. > > > > > > I would allow my underage grandson to do such, except now the DOJ is > calling him (and every US minor) a criminal who should be prosecuted, > > > > simply due to the fact: they are minors, the CFAA, and Google's TOS. > > > > > > For those, new to the story, the DOJ says it's a crime to violate the > TOS of a website. Google's TOS forbid minors, because they cannot legally > enter into a contract. > > Hence any minor can't legally use Google without becoming a felon per > CFAA. I'm pretty sure just about every teen in America has used Google. > > > > > > http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS > > > > "2.3 You may not use the Services and may not accept the > > Terms if (a) you are not of legal age to form a binding contract with > > Google, or (b) you are a person barred from receiving the Services under > the laws of the United States or other countries including the country > > in which you are resident or from which you use the Services." > > > > Brilliant. > > > > Thanks again, > > Jack > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell(a)gmail.com> > > To: Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: Kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM > > Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux > > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux? > > > > Not really.? If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the > > UI that iOS provides.? Linux doesn't provide the same user interface. > > That said, Objective-C is available for both. > > > > Debian (and derivatives): gobjc > > Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc > > > > > Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux? > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > Best iPhone/iPad emulator? > > > > The one that comes with the iOS SDK. > > http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action > > > > > Cheap Apple development box? > > > > A Mac mini. > > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jack > > > > -- > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > > KCLUG mailing list > > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > End of KCLUG Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 > ************************************ >

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iOS application on Linux
by Jack 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux? Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux? Best iPhone/iPad emulator? Cheap Apple development box? I'm putting together some lesson plans for my grandson, who "says" he might want to become a game coder. Not sure he's going to love seeing all that applied Math and Physics though. Thanks, Jack

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Trinity-desktop
by Jonathan Hutchins 14 Nov '11

14 Nov '11

I tried out the Trinity Desktop Project this weekend on Debian Lenny. Trinity is an attempt to continue development and bugfixes on KDE3 for distributions that are moving to KDE4. I would not recommend it on Lenny. It didn't make a DM entry for the old KDE, it preserved but did not import user settings. Kmail kept crashing, and I could not run the old kmail remotely over ssh. On removing all the trinity packages (aptitude purge ~ntrinity), kdm had problems determining what session to start. Fortunately, I was able to go through it's session menu and get back to the old KDE.

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Linux-friendly bluetooth dongle?
by Kendric Beachey 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

This month's Linux Journal has an article about making your computer auto-lock when you leave your desk, and auto-unlock when you return, by sensing the leaving/returning of the bluetooth phone in your pocket. (You DO take your mobile phone with you....don't you??) We have a few jokesters around here that make this sound like a good idea. But neither my desktop nor my laptop have built-in bluetooth, at least not anything Ubuntu 11.10 can find. Does anyone know of a good bluetooth dongle that works well with Linux? (and is fairly affordable?) Kendric Beachey

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Fwd: [alg] [JOB] 100% telecommute PHP Developer position
by Oren Beck 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

Oren Beck 816.729.3645 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OSS <beau(a)open-source-staffing.com> Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:39 AM Subject: [alg] [JOB] 100% telecommute PHP Developer position To: alg(a)austinlug.org This is a 100% telecommute PHP Developer position for a person who can commit at least 25 hours of work per week during regular Pacific Standard Time (PST) hours. No moonlighting. US citizens or green card holder only. Duration of contract unknown. Hourly rate for this position is open and depends on experience. When applying, please state your hourly rate. My client is a healthcare company, looking for an independent contractor-PHP developer located in the US. The position is to expand an existing web application based on a Linux/Apache/MySQL architecture into new areas, while also maintaining and updating the existing application. The person should have a proven track record of: * Building on existing data-driven, large scale, complex web applications. * Implementing data visualization systems. * Working with consumer-targeted user interfaces. Requirements: * College degree and at least 5 years of experience. Applicants without a college degree but with 10+ years of experience will be considered. * Ability to grasp the big picture and pay attention to detail at the same time to be able to test and debug effectively. * Strong trouble shooting skills. * Excellent project management skills. * Effective written and oral communication with non-technical team, marketing and UI designers. * Grasp of SEO basics necessary. * Minimum commitment 25 hours per week. If you are interested in this job, please submit your RESUME and HOURLY RATE to opensourcestaffing|AT|gmail.com Thank you, Beau J. Gould ------------------ Open Source Staffing http://opensourcestaffing.wordpress.com opensourcestaffing|AT|gmail.com Twitter: ossjobs _______________________________________________ ALG Mailing List http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg

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Screen replacement on a MyTouch 3G Slide
by Shane Par-Due 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

I replaced a screen on my wife's phone and now it won't get past the MyTouch splash screen. The bootloader says there was a touch panel failure. After checking and rechecking the connections, I can't find the problem. Would anyone be able to help me with this? I would really appreciate it! -- Shane

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Fwd: [FSF] New FSF membership benefit: Digital Credit Union eligibility
by Billy Crook 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

This was the bank I ended up choosing after trying several online banking sites out. DCU's interface is down to business, quite functional, without looking all web 2.0. The bill amounts for my utilities show up in DCU's website, and DCU automatically sends a check to pay if the bill amount is under a threshold I set. Depositing checks with their android app, like I demonstrated at a meeting, is certainly nice as well. Their log on process works flawlessly with lastpass too. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joshua Gay <jgay(a)fsf.org> Date: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 16:14 Subject: [FSF] New FSF membership benefit: Digital Credit Union eligibility To: info-member(a)fsf.org Free Software Foundation members living in the US are now eligible to join the Digital Federal Credit Union for their banking, thanks to DCU approving us as a participating organization. DCU is, like the FSF, a nonprofit headquartered in Massachusetts, with members in all 50 states. * Sign-up with DCU: <http://www.dcu.org/> * Share this story: <http://ur1.ca/57wgw> We are working to be able to offer this same opportunity to the many members living in other countries as well, but so far we have not been able to find appropriate partner organizations. If you know of a credit union in your country that would be willing to work with us please let us know at <membership(a)fsf.org>! Credit unions are cooperative and often nonprofit financial institutions which provide the same services as banks, but because they are member-owned, there can be dramatic differences from banks in the cost of borrowing money and use of their services. DCU is both nonprofit and democratically controlled, which means you and other members elect a volunteer board of directors to run things. The management then reports to this board. If you'd like to take advantage of this benefit, head to <https://www.dcu.org/> and complete their application. *Thank you to Danny Piccirillo, who did the work to make this possible while interning at the FSF last year.*

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Fwd: Fw: AMC Linux Admin position
by Brian Kelsay 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message --------- Date: Sep 9, 2011 8:11 PM Subject: Fw: AMC Linux Admin position To: "Brian Kelsay" <ripcrd(a)gmail.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Jim Stovall <JStovall(a)amctheatres.com> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: AMC Linux Admin position Gang, Hope all is well with everyone. Have you ever wanted to work in the fast-paced action-packed entertainment industry AMC is getting ready to hire another Linux Admin. It will be posted on Monster/Career Builder in the next few weeks. If you guys know a good Linux/UNIX person, please forward them my email and ask them to send me a resume. We’d rather hire a referral than some stranger danger from the Internet. Thanks ! Jim Stovall Hosting and Network Systems AMC Theatres 920 Main Street Kansas City, MO. 64105 Phone (816)480-4771 JStovall(a)amctheatres.com

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IT job opportunity in Overland Park KS
by Joe Cho 30 Sep '11

30 Sep '11

Hi, Everyone. Even though this mailing list is for Linux/Unix user group, I would like to introduce this MS Windows job opportunity to someone who looks for an employment. I would like to introduce an IT job in Kansas City, KS. This position mainly work with Microsoft Windows systems. Let me know if you are interested in after reviewing the job description. Thanks -Joe -- Joe Cho ksjoecho(a)gmail.com

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looking for old laptop memory
by gene nelson 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

I need 2 strips of pc100 (not 133, as this is said to cause seg fault errors on this machine) a gateway solo 5300 need : 2, 256 meg strips, if anyone has some, please let me know. Gene

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