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Computer Setup:
Primary Master: Hard Drive
Primary Slave: Nothing Present
Secondary Master: Hard Drive #but no hard drive was presenting when
trying to boot to cd.
Secondary Slave: DVD Player
I was trying to boot from the cdrom and it wasn't showing up in POST
just the primary master hard drive. So I took the PM Hard drive out
and just let the secondary boot by itself worked like a charm. I got
it to work with the the below setup. Is this just me or does the bus
not get scanned …
[View More]if a Secondary Master is present? Kinda weird I would
think it would. This is probably the first time I have tried to boot
from SM not present. Kinda weird though either way.
Primary Master: Hard Drive
Primary Slave: DVD Player
Secondary Master: Hard Drive
Secondary Slave: Nothing Present
Thanks,
--
dj_goku
-www.djgoku.com-
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If a drive is set to SS and no SM is present, then there is no drive to be the second part of the drive controller. The Master drive in any chain controls the flow of info to the Slave. When you set a drive to Slave, you basically turn off that feature of any drive and give over control to the Master in the chain.
The reason I don't trust CS is when working on another person's box. If it is one I set up and it hasn't been messed with, then they will be set correctly and at the right point …
[View More]on the cable. Sometimes people will plug a drive set on Master, into the Slave plug on the cable rather than take the time to move drives around so the cables reach or get a longer cable. you may or may not believe some of the goofy stuff I have seen done inside PC cases.
Brian Kelsay
>>> djgoku <> 12/10/04 11:45AM >>>
All hardware is new and in working condition. But for some reason if
no SM present the SS doesn't show up.
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Yep, that's what my current configuration is.
PM : HD
SM : CDRW w/o speaker hookup
SS : CD/DVDROM w/speaker hookup
Now if I only knew how to connect the speakers in such a way
as to be able to let either one use the speakers.
I of course could always do some fancy custom wiring to
either put them in parallel or series, but then either the
current might be off or the voltage, unless I added them to a
custom board, etc. Another possibility is to rewire one to
fit one of the alternate …
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Kelsay
>
>
> Some Western Digital drives I've had wanted to be on CS,
> especially if the only drive in the chain. I personally
> don't trust CS as far as I could throw it. It can get
> confusing which drive you are using when installing an OS or
> a new bootloader. CDRW drives like to be Secondary Master,
> but don't have to be. When they first came out for IDE that
> was a general rule to installing one though. Move the CDROM
> from SM to SS and put the CDRW on SM. Or put the CDROM on as
> PS. Can't remember which gives you better speed for CD to CD
> copy, but I imagine the best solution would be a drive
> controller and put em both on as masters.
>
> Brian Kelsay
>
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Some of the basic soundblaster cards have multiple inputs, all SB Live! cards do. Most motherboards w/ on-board sound have more than one input also. They started adding the extra ports for PC telephony, you know hook your modem to the sound card. When people started getting CDRWs and DVD drives, the inputs grew from 2 to 3. My SB Live has 3-4 on it. You can get them for $20-30 now.
Brian Kelsay
>>> "Brian Densmore" <DensmoreB(a)ctbsonline.com> 12/10/04 11:24AM >>>
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[View More]Yep, that's what my current configuration is.
PM : HD
SM : CDRW w/o speaker hookup
SS : CD/DVDROM w/speaker hookup
Now if I only knew how to connect the speakers in such a way
as to be able to let either one use the speakers.
I of course could always do some fancy custom wiring to
either put them in parallel or series, but then either the
current might be off or the voltage, unless I added them to a
custom board, etc. Another possibility is to rewire one to
fit one of the alternate connectors on the SB.
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Whoa, cool! I'll have to find an old MB and dig
out a HD to try it on.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Kelsay
>
> Repeat after me... Hot-swap is only safe on drives that are
> sold as Hot-swap drives. Usually SCSI, but I have heard of
> other methods. That's a quick way to burn up the controller
> chip on the HDD circuit board. I have seen it happen. Nice
> sparks and sometimes flames when they go.
>
> Who's up for roasting marshmallows over …
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> it goes out in a blaze of glory?
>
[homer] Mmmmmm Marshmellooooooooooooooooow ...
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Repeat after me... Hot-swap is only safe on drives that are sold as Hot-swap drives. Usually SCSI, but I have heard of other methods. That's a quick way to burn up the controller chip on the HDD circuit board. I have seen it happen. Nice sparks and sometimes flames when they go.
Who's up for roasting marshmallows over a Quantum Fireball as it goes out in a blaze of glory?
Brian Kelsay
I've had problems with setups like this:
PM : HD
PS : CDROM
SM : none
SS : CDRW
[note this was by accident and I changed the
jumper to make SS into SM to fix]
PM : HD
PS : none
SM : present but not detected
SS : CDRW
[I fixed this by moving the CDRW from SS to PS]
PM : HD
PS : none
SM : CDRW
SS : HD
[see above, also was able to fix by setting HD to
CableSelect mode]
I think the problems I had were due to a flaky HD.
So the short answer is: no it's not just you.
I think that some HDs are …
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HD was it? Mine was either a Conner or Seagate or WD.
The PM being a Quantum Fireball. Of course it's also best
to *not* mix HD brands, or even oftentimes product lines.
Brian Densmore
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djgoku
>
> Computer Setup:
>
> Primary Master: Hard Drive
> Primary Slave: Nothing Present
> Secondary Master: Hard Drive #but no hard drive was presenting when
> trying to boot to cd.
> Secondary Slave: DVD Player
>
> I was trying to boot from the cdrom and it wasn't showing up in POST
> just the primary master hard drive. So I took the PM Hard drive out
> and just let the secondary boot by itself worked like a charm. I got
> it to work with the the below setup. Is this just me or does the bus
> not get scanned if a Secondary Master is present? Kinda weird I would
> think it would. This is probably the first time I have tried to boot
> from SM not present. Kinda weird though either way.
>
> Primary Master: Hard Drive
> Primary Slave: DVD Player
> Secondary Master: Hard Drive
> Secondary Slave: Nothing Present
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Attaway
>
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 lerninlinux(a)comcast.net wrote:
>
> > few things, I asked them to save me some dead drives for
> the magnets and
> > some battered cases for the motherboard trays. She gave me
> a drive that
>
> Those are some mighty powerful magnets! I would like to know
> where to get
> them cheap.
>
Me too! Rare Earth magnets aren't cheap.